I like more the results of the G7 even with ISO 800. Out of the camera is too grainy, but after some NR with Noiseware I get decent results. The F60 (and I suppose the F50) have too much in-camera NR and it is few to do in PP

Of course the F30/F31 plays in another level regarding IQ but the focal range, DR, lack of IS, histogram RAW mode and real Manual together with a uncomfortable interface are very limiting. And ISO 1600 is worth only for a small print

My hope is, the IQ of the G11 is close to it (perhaps 1/2 stop worse) and what I have seen in the web, the G11 up to ISO 800 is usable (I would say, 1 stop advantage in comparison to my G7 and a little bit worse than the F30)

LX3 won't be my choice because I need an all rounder and the focal range of this camera is too short for me. 24mm f/2 is really fine but the 28-140 of the G11 suits better to my necessities.

Probably I will check a G11, using it 2-3 days with my "normal" pictures and compare them with my the results in low light with the F30! If they are not good enough, it will come back to the shop!

Regarding real ISO, I have also the feeling, Canon G series are giving actually more sensibility in every ISO setting than other PS. Around 1/3 and 2/3 of stop more than the F30/F60

Cheers,

Rubén

Thank you for your review! I am close to buy a G11 (nowadays I have a G7, I wanted the 28mm, better IQ up to ISO 800&1600, RAW without cracking firmware, Swivel screen, better batery life etc)

I own also a F30, a masterpiece in IQ… well 4 years after, I though the G11 has the same IQ up to ISO 1600 as the F30 or even slightly better.

But in your comments you wrote it is not so and you are a little disapointed. I have seen hunderts of examples of the G11 Iso 800&1600 and at least they look as good as my shots with the F30

Can you tell what are the differences between these two cameras in IQ in your opinion?

Cheers,

Rubén

Main gripe so far, useless AWB which delivers orange cast indoors. Correctable in manual WB of course and in post prod on RAW but point and shoot cameras should be reliable in Auto, that is one of their USPs

Noise is not an issue, it is better than the G10 and who prints a pic to 20×16 and then sticks their nose up against it? Viewed from a normal distance there is no problem. People obsess about noise when they should be looking at the image!

The A620 was a bit grainy at even ISO 100 and ISO 400 was really bad. On Auto ISO, the A620 tended to use the lowest ISOs possible at the expense of low shutter speeds. Its lack of optical image stabilization made low light shootings worse.

You're not the only complainant on the G11's over-strong reds. Some camera review sites noted of this trait and even my own G11 was of no exception. I use the custom color mode with the red slightly toned back and sharpening boosted a tad. Works for me.

There's also something odd I discovered with Canon. On some PowerShots, they made remote shooting via computer possible (like the A620 but not with the A610). They did it it again with the G11 by removing the remote shooting capability which the earlier G10 had.

Most of the time I'd set my camera to black & white and the image stays that way. I shoot primarily JPGs, not RAW.

On a related note, yesterday I chanced upon two nice young ladies contemplating between the G11 and the LX3 at a camera store. They were bent on buying the G11 but nevertheless asked my opinion on the LX3. I told them that if they needed 24mm wide angle shots most of the time and a fast 2.0 lens, the Panasonic obviously wins.

I also mentioned that there's a wider base of Canon G-series users globally, the G11's longer zoom range, the useful backup optical viewfinder, the merits of the swivel LCD screen and the G11's ability to use the Speedlites (not to mention that Speedlites were more easily available compared to Panasonic's flash units), Canon Malaysia's efficient after sales service, a three-year warranty (offered only by Canon Malaysia) and other accessories that can be used with a Rebel series dSLR, should they decide to buy one in the future.

Oh, and also the fact that many professional photojournalists worldwide prefer a G-series camera when they don't wish to lug a heavy and prominent dSLR.

Needless to say, their attention shifted back to the G11 and they bought one for USD485 with goodies thrown in.

cheers,

Stratman.

P.S. Sorry for the typo regarding the EF 100mm macro USM. I didn't proof read my post.

Robert